{"id":2388,"date":"2020-09-25T06:57:55","date_gmt":"2020-09-25T06:57:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tahneyalexandramay.com\/?p=2388"},"modified":"2022-09-02T11:29:52","modified_gmt":"2022-09-02T11:29:52","slug":"gorkie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tahneyalexandramay.com\/index.php\/2020\/09\/25\/gorkie\/","title":{"rendered":"Gorkie Cartoons the Mundane Everyday"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"bsf_rt_marker\"><\/div>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"2388\" class=\"elementor elementor-2388\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-c3821d0 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"c3821d0\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column 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data-id=\"4fac63b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/gorkiegork\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gorkie<\/a> is a Melbourne-based artist and cartoonist created by Sarah Nagorcka centered on the moods of everyday life, living on Instagram with over 100 thousand followers.\u00a0<\/h3><h3>In this conversation, originally published on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tahneyalexandramay.com\/index.php\/in-the-arts-podcast\/\">In the Arts<\/a>,\u00a0Gorkie speaks on how her cartoons are spontaneously created, the anxieties around selling her work, the ethics of working\u00a0as an artist\u00a0on Instagram and the effects of climate anxiety on creative people.\u00a0<\/h3>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 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\/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1dadace elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1dadace\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em><strong>This podcast transcript has been edited for reading clarity. Listen to the audio podcast of this interview\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/1fq3t7kDijcGSS6A4fRGdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/em><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0Broadly speaking, what do you enjoy in the\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">arts?\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0I enjoy any art that is not mine, a bit like how nobody wants to eat their own food. I seek things that are very different. I enjoy watching performance, and I&#8217;ve been getting into physical theatre a little bit lately, which is the cross between dance and clowning. These people have amazing control over their expressions.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">For reading, I always have a book on the go, but I&#8217;m terrible finishing books. I&#8217;m usually dipping in and out of quite a few at once. I finished reading\u00a0<em>on us on earth we are briefly gorgeous<\/em>\u00a0by Ocean Vuong. I am often reading David Sedaris, who has lots of very amusing short stories.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Tahney:<\/span>\u00a0Same here, I&#8217;ll be watching one TV show at a time, but with books, I&#8217;ll have six I&#8217;m reading over a year. I will feel like one this day and another tomorrow, and perhaps there will be one I&#8217;m devouring.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gorkie:<\/span>\u00a0It&#8217;s about mood. People will ask you what you are reading, and you say, &#8220;If I am in this mood, I&#8217;ll read this book, if I&#8217;m in that mood, I&#8217;ll read that.&#8221; I don&#8217;t read them in order either; I open it up in the middle and read a few chapters. If I like the end, I might go back to the start. It&#8217;s a bit stupid. But\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">I need them to win me over, and then I&#8217;ll read the whole thing. It&#8217;s rude, I should read the way the authors intended.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Tahney:<\/span>\u00a0As an audience or a consumer, rather than as an artist, what does art do for you?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gorkie:<\/span>\u00a0It gives me a different angle. It&#8217;s a relief to get out of your brain, even momentarily to get a different perspective. It&#8217;s a shower for your mind. It&#8217;s so easy to have the same internal voice over and over.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Tahney:\u00a0<\/span>Do you remember your first connection with art?\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gorkie:\u00a0<\/span>It would have been a religious thing. I was raised as a conservative Christian, and my grandparents had this massive picture of an angel guiding two little children over this bridge. It was very green- I don&#8217;t know whether that&#8217;s a 70s thing- it caste this greenish hue over the fireplace. That&#8217;s pretty strong in my mind.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Tahney:<\/span>\u00a0Growing up, did you naturally gravitate towards drawing and cartooning?\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gorkie:\u00a0<\/span>My mother was very actively involved in my education. She started to teach me how to read before I went to school and made paint for me out of flour to encourage me to paint the walls (not inside but outside!). She encouraged creativity in me. I&#8217;m not sure about art exactly, but the expression of emotion was more the basis of my art background than fine art.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Tahney:<\/span>\u00a0How did you find your voice? Was it linked to\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">being able to articulate your emotions?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gorkie:<\/span>\u00a0It&#8217;s interesting that you say find your voice\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">because I&#8217;d say songwriting was my first formalised expression. I was\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">about 16 or so and loved music.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">I couldn&#8217;t sing &#8216;regular songs&#8217; because I didn&#8217;t have a high voice, and usually, the female part is high. So, I would write my own that were relatively low.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">That was the first thing<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0that was my own.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I did a comic-strip when I was 12 called\u00a0<em>Sharp Sheep<\/em>. I&#8217;m still quite dorky, so I suppose it&#8217;s fitting. But it didn&#8217;t feel my own like songwriting. In terms of finding a voice, that&#8217;s the first thing that felt mine.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Tahney:\u00a0<\/span>When was Gorkie born?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gorkie:\u00a0<\/span>Five or six years ago. I was trying to find a new identity because I&#8217;d been in another industry and trying to work out my new thing. Initially, Gorkie emerged from more commercial reasons. I was going to do informational videos and thought I needed to brand myself, but then it somehow turned into this personal outpouring of emotion. 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\">A post shared by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/gorkiegork\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> GORKIE<\/a> (@gorkiegork) on <time style=\" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;\" datetime=\"2019-07-02T06:28:08+00:00\">Jul 1, 2019 at 11:28pm PDT<\/time><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cd74e10 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cd74e10\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u00a0<\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Tahney:\u00a0<\/span>As time has gone by, has there a distinction between Sarah and Gorky or are do they often merge?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gorkie:<\/span>\u00a0There&#8217;s become more of a distinction. It&#8217;s become evident to me over time what I&#8217;m doing with the character of Gorkie. It is still very much me and an honest output, but I&#8217;m not Gorkie. Gorkie is an amplified part of me.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Sometimes people think that because Gorkie is, therefore, I am depressed. The thing is, I will feel a feeling, and it might be fleeting. But as soon as you put it on paper, it suddenly carries more weight, and people can stare at it for as long as they want and it exists more permanently. From that, people think that you&#8217;re describing a permanent state that you&#8217;re in. It&#8217;s often a fleeting dip in and out of these existential moments. In that way, it&#8217;s different to me, the person.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I do try to describe what the mundane things are as well.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">There is a lot of work out there on the extremes of life. I&#8217;m trying to deal\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">with the everyday existentialism.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0How often are you making cartoons?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0All the time. I&#8217;ll have to stop my bike and draw on the side of the road. Sometimes in the studio, sometimes at my house. A big thing is when I&#8217;m about to leave somewhere. There&#8217;s something about procrastination and then not having the time to make art that makes you want to make art. As soon as I put my helmet on, I&#8217;m suddenly struck with heaps of ideas. So, I will be there with a pen and my back up against the wall.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0I do that on my commute, I will be stuck in traffic writing in my notepad against the steering wheel. It happens in the most mundane moment when you&#8217;re got to start going somewhere that&#8217;s not that exciting, then you&#8217;re like, &#8220;Aha, this is what&#8217;s in my head now!&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0That&#8217;s exactly how the brain works. Focusing directly on a problem or a concept rarely brings results. When you suddenly switch to a more normalised space of mind, your brain will take from that situation. The solution is suddenly there.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0Gorkie is about six years old. Has there\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">ever been a writer&#8217;s block during that time?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0Not a block but certainly a discontentment with\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">what I&#8217;m producing. I&#8217;ll create all kinds of rubbish or things that are not\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">worth saying, but I&#8217;ll put it out there anyway because that&#8217;s part of what\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Gorkie is. It&#8217;s this unashamed notion that my work isn&#8217;t the bee&#8217;s knees, but\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">it is what&#8217;s happening in my brain and asking the viewer if their brain is that\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">dull as well. It is a reveal-all. Sometimes, it worries me that is lost on\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">people, and they think I&#8217;m putting things out that are amazing or profound, but\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I&#8217;m not. I&#8217;m going for everyday thoughts.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0What you do outside of Gorky? You recently worked\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">at Google &#8211; what were you doing there?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0My role there was not so much of an artist; it was more working alongside artists. A bit of a production and project management, a bit of design in a team called\u00a0<em>Creative Lab<\/em>\u00a0which deals with experimental projects along the borders of art and technology. So, some of those things are still yet to be released or will never be released. We did projects around augmented reality and machine learning.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">That was a bit of a year out of the ordinary for me. Although I&#8217;ve previously done a lot of work in the art-science space, art tech\u2026 not so much. I certainly used to be more in the science world; that&#8217;s the other side of my life.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0You were talking about how your sketches connect to your mind. When I am observing them, they seem spontaneous composition-wise but also precise and relatable. I&#8217;ve looked at them and been like, &#8220;Wow, that&#8217;s exactly how I feel!&#8221; What level of planning goes into those works?\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0They&#8217;re revised continuously but what is on the page when you see it is something I haven&#8217;t revised a lot in my head, but then I might go and make another not-public revision.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The more I think about something, the fewer people relate to it because they&#8217;re scrolling through. They haven&#8217;t been thinking about this topic; they want something that is immediately accessible. My cartoons are spontaneous, and I often regret the wording later and might go in and destroy the actual original, but it stays online. I&#8217;ll try not to delete things, although occasionally I do.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0That&#8217;s interesting you might destroy the original, but it&#8217;s kept archived online where it&#8217;s public! But your copy is gone.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0I don&#8217;t know why I do what I do.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5557ebf elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"5557ebf\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-captioned data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B3ko7NaBAGi\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"12\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:540px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B3ko7NaBAGi\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; 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font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:550; line-height:18px;\"> View this post on Instagram<\/div><\/div><div style=\"padding: 12.5% 0;\"><\/div> <div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: row; margin-bottom: 14px; align-items: center;\"><div> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(0px) translateY(7px);\"><\/div> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; height: 12.5px; transform: rotate(-45deg) translateX(3px) translateY(1px); width: 12.5px; flex-grow: 0; margin-right: 14px; margin-left: 2px;\"><\/div> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(9px) translateY(-18px);\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"margin-left: 8px;\"> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 20px; width: 20px;\"><\/div> <div style=\" width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 2px solid transparent; border-left: 6px solid #f4f4f4; border-bottom: 2px solid transparent; transform: translateX(16px) translateY(-4px) rotate(30deg)\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"margin-left: auto;\"> <div style=\" width: 0px; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-right: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(16px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; flex-grow: 0; height: 12px; width: 16px; transform: translateY(-4px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-left: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(-4px) translateX(8px);\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/a> <p style=\" margin:8px 0 0 0; padding:0 4px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B3ko7NaBAGi\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#000; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none; word-wrap:break-word;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A message for my friends and family<\/a><\/p> <p style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\">A post shared by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/gorkiegork\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> GORKIE<\/a> (@gorkiegork) on <time style=\" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;\" datetime=\"2019-10-13T20:53:11+00:00\">Oct 13, 2019 at 1:53pm PDT<\/time><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-324b640 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"324b640\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u00a0<\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong> Do focus much on the printmaking of your favourites later?\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong> There are ones that I don&#8217;t mind reproducing. Others I might get contacted by people saying, &#8220;Please make a print!&#8221; I might be like, &#8220;Nah\u2026&#8221; There is one called\u00a0<em>Pick <\/em><\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">a Life<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> which is a series of\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">simple lines. A is a straight line which means a regular life, B is this wiggly <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">line, and C is this upward line. That&#8217;s one that I don&#8217;t mind <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">reproducing. It&#8217;s simple and works well as a print. Because of the nature of <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">the way I draw, I don&#8217;t think many of my pieces are worthy of making prints! <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I&#8217;ll be like, &#8220;You want that as a print?! Go nuts!&#8221; People are funny <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">with they want. It never fails to amuse me.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong> You self-scrutinise works after they&#8217;ve even come out. But in these works, you are frank in confronting odd things in life or complicated emotions. You&#8217;re doing in a self-reflective way but, as you were saying, as time has gone on, you started to separate yourself from your work. How do you maintain a level of personal vulnerability?\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0If I&#8217;m in a bad neurotic state where I think my work is shallow, I feel vulnerable then. But, honestly, because I don&#8217;t speak about specifics, I don&#8217;t find it that vulnerable. A lot of my friends, who are artists in the mental health arena, are often more specific. But there&#8217;s something about the vagueness of mine that is less vulnerable.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I find selling things more vulnerable, it&#8217;s so hard. I will lose sleep over selling one print! I think there&#8217;s something deep there connected to self-worth and people paying actual money for something that I have made. I find it challenging, and it is only getting mildly easier. If anyone has any good advice, I am all ears. Even talking about it, I can feel anxiety in my chest and stomach!\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong> Do you sell many prints, or are you quite protective of them?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong> If people hound me down, yes. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gorkie.com.au\/shop-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">This is why I sell a calendar because that&#8217;s 12 prints all at once<\/a>. It&#8217;s easy and cheap, and after a while, you sell enough that you don&#8217;t think about it too much. Whereas, if it&#8217;s an individual print that&#8217;s going out, each time I am like, &#8220;Is this enough? Shall I add ten more prints to it? Shall I put a $50 note? Do they need their money back?&#8221; Going into their homes, they can look at it for as long as they want and find fault in it. That&#8217;s very vulnerable to me. I&#8217;m afraid of people looking at something and not finding it enough.\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong> Is humour is important in your work?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong> I don&#8217;t actively set out to make things funny. I think the world is quite absurd, so if there&#8217;s an element of humour in there, it&#8217;s because that&#8217;s how I see it. When you think of cartoons, like the old-style New Yorker ones (I know it&#8217;s changed a lot in the past few years with different editors) and traditional cartoons, there&#8217;s quite a forced humour about them. I don&#8217;t want to do that. If I find myself trying, that&#8217;s when I stop. If there is humour, it&#8217;s because I felt something was funny but not because I&#8217;ve tried to inject it.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong> What mood are you pursuing then?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong> I&#8217;m not trying to drive a certain feeling. Maybe, curiosity? I&#8217;m interested in the internal world. Not so much interest in\u00a0<em>my<\/em> internal\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">world but more asking questions of other people, &#8220;Do you do you think <\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">this?&#8221; So, maybe curiosity.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong> You&#8217;re working mostly as an artist on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/gorkiegork\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>. Can you speak to the ethics of that? Often people will share your work, maybe editing it or tattooing it. Recently, you had someone embroider your work. How do you feel about that way of people interacting with you?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong> I am still working that out on a case-by-case basis. It entirely depends on who is doing it and why. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a lot of art theorists that have written much more intelligent things about what I&#8217;m about to say.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\" data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I&#8217;m finding it&#8217;s evolving. At one stage, I had an exhibition where people could take my work off the walls and photocopy it as a response to screen-shotting artwork. People were very comfortable; they were lining up. But I was openly asking them to do it.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">In terms of Instagram, I used to be more chill. Sure, everyone use it, I don&#8217;t care! But now I am in an awkward spot. Everybody is using my work for marketing their business or brand, but I am not being paid.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0a0f2cc elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"0a0f2cc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/BuphEKJBFpG\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"12\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:540px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/BuphEKJBFpG\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/BuphEKJBFpG\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A post shared by GORKIE (@gorkiegork)<\/a> on <time style=\" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;\" datetime=\"2019-03-06T01:38:10+00:00\">Mar 5, 2019 at 5:38pm PST<\/time><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89c202a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"89c202a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0I&#8217;ve even seen artists on Instagram call companies out on this, calling it theft by profiting off someone else&#8217;s creative production. Have you ever called anyone out?\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0When big brands don&#8217;t even tag me or do a reverse Google image search to find out who owns this image, I contact them and say, &#8220;Look, it&#8217;s my work. Please go to the effort to try and find out who made it, at least.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">But, I don&#8217;t get bitter about these things. I have seen a lot of artists in lots of fields, whether that is in art or music or whatever, be bitter about how that their work is distributed and not be able to move on. If there&#8217;s anything that creatives can do, it is be creative about how to craft a career in the future. We must turn our attention to how to make money given the circumstances. That doesn&#8217;t mean not standing up for your rights.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I have been thinking a lot lately about our ability to make money from this service approach \u2013 such as providing art to help a brand \u2013 that we&#8217;re not getting paid for reuse of our work. A lot of us are turning to make objects, like mass-produced products such as t-shirts, some prints etcetera. Then, we&#8217;ve come across climate change and pressure to not be producing and not creating waste.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Where do I sit with using resources making all this stuff? It&#8217;s quite a challenging space to make a living. I certainly feel that conflict and I&#8217;m actively looking for answers.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">But if you carry that thought to its very endpoint, you must take yourself off the earth because everybody has an impact through no choice of our own. We&#8217;re here now. We have a footprint. What do you do with that? It is an exciting problem.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0I feel for people who work in fashion at this\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">moment. Their entire thing is using a lot of materials. That&#8217;s a conversation\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">for another day, but I can imagine that being quite confronting.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0Then people say, &#8220;Is climate change causing you anxiety?&#8221; Oh, not at all, it&#8217;s just occupying my dreams! I am thinking about it constantly.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0I was getting onto a flight when the last school\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">strike was on. I thought, &#8220;I\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m totally across the science of climate change.&#8221; I sat down\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">with the Wikipedia page and learnt how it all works. Cold hard\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">facts. I was destroyed, then I had to get on a plane which felt horrible\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">because of all the co2 emissions.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0Your reaction makes a lot of sense. For\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">me, it was reading resources by an organisation called Breakthrough and\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">researching the actual science behind it: What is global warming? Where do they\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">measure it? Do they measure the sea? How long have they been doing it? Finding\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">out the facts.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0When you get to the nitty-gritty details, it&#8217;s just like, wow! So many scientists are in agreeance about it and saying they don&#8217;t even think we can avoid this, we&#8217;re going to have to figure out how to mitigate it and how to adapt and we might not be able to that.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">Haha, maybe we should switch to a more positive topic!\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Going back to talking about working on Instagram, we spoke about the negative side, but there&#8217;s also the positives. You have this instantaneous community. What has been that process for you building a community, and how do you interact with it?\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0Who would have thought that people outside of Australia would care about and support my work? That has been very surprising. I get a lot of, &#8220;That&#8217;s so me!&#8221; or &#8220;I feel attacked!&#8221; I love that people relate on that level. But some people get so into it and will analyse things and send me questions. Sometimes it&#8217;s good to stop and be grateful for that. You can get a bit carried away with some of the negative aspects or trying to make a living- because that can be stressful -and sometimes it&#8217;s nice to be like, &#8220;Wow, strangers are reacting to my work!&#8221; Who would have thought that would happen?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0Have you seen your work taken out of context?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0I&#8217;ve seen it take it out of context aesthetically, I&#8217;ve seen the colours changed, I&#8217;ve seen it engraved into the wood, I&#8217;ve seen people cross out words to write their own. Once someone crossed something out and replaced it with equals sign love. I was like this doesn&#8217;t make sense. Whenever I do something self-love related, the lingerie accounts will go off, and it gets shared over and over. It&#8217;s always lingerie companies! I feel I should get something in exchange.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0Invoice them for a couple of pairs of lingerie. <\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">Instagram is such an interesting social experiment; you see what communities react to different imagery. Do you find this a lot of young women engage with you?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0The stats say 87 per cent women- but shout out to all the men out there who support my work.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0You&#8217;re not entirely digital, you also make concrete items &#8211; shirts, calendars and things- and are based in a studio. What is the importance of physical space for you?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0It&#8217;s more about having somewhere to go even if I don&#8217;t do anything. I might go there and snack and then ride home. That&#8217;s not true so much, anymore, but certainly, in the early days I didn&#8217;t have as many freelancing jobs, so it would be a place to have a conversation with someone and know that I went somewhere that day and didn&#8217;t fall into the mental pit of staying at home. Nowadays, it&#8217;s more about storage, somewhere to keep my sketchbooks and all my postage.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I&#8217;m currently a studio that has a lot of people that make incredibly detailed craft items, like weavers and glassmakers. It has a different vibe to previous places with a more commercial edge, like design workers and knowledge workers. Studios always bring something different to your practice, and it influences it in ways you might not expect. Human connection is so important.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-b85a427 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"b85a427\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-23041b5\" data-id=\"23041b5\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fa7855b elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"fa7855b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-captioned data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B-0oFY-BHxf\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"12\" style=\" background:#FFF; 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\">A post shared by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/gorkiegork\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> GORKIE<\/a> (@gorkiegork) on <time style=\" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;\" datetime=\"2020-04-11T01:35:41+00:00\">Apr 10, 2020 at 6:35pm PDT<\/time><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-473c25b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"473c25b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">Tahney:<\/strong><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">\u00a0Outside of your studio, do you connect with the cartooning community?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0I am connected with a lot of Instagram artists and cartoonists, especially internationally. America is still the place to be pretty much if you want to be a cartoonist. So, it&#8217;s good to connect with them online. In terms of the art community, in Melbourne, I&#8217;m more connected with the science community. I&#8217;m getting more connected with the art community, but my strongest connections are in that intersection space between art, science, performance and tech. When you&#8217;re worried about some design problem, and you go to a performance event, you realise no one cares that I got a line wrong.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0I was stuck in the visual art space for a while but then started going to the theatre a lot. I love how forward it is. You can see it, and it&#8217;s so in-your-face. But you still have to spend time with it, unlike visual art, which has often doesn&#8217;t get the time. The average time spent looking at a piece of art in a museum is four to six seconds, which is depressing.\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0What is almost even sadder is that Instagram is probably three seconds.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0We just don&#8217;t have the attention span. But with theatre, you&#8217;re forced to sit there for two hours and ruminate on the story and themes they&#8217;re conveying.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0px;\">Speaking of which, can we talk about the value of cartooning in 2019?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0This is good that we&#8217;re coming off the six-second\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">fact. In art, you need all the tools you can get. With cartooning, you are\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">helped by the combination of the visual and a text. Weirdly enough in this\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">digital age, we&#8217;ve got a short attention span and, for this very instantaneous\u00a0<\/span><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">moment, cartooning has got a bit of a moment in history.<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0Aside from attention spans, why is it making strides?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0Probably that we are wading through this glut of information and cartoons are very reductive. I&#8217;m not making a value judgment. I mean, purely, that it reduces concepts and makes things more transparent in a way that&#8217;s so necessary right now. Everyone&#8217;s in a fog of really fast information.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0It&#8217;s helping people process complex ideas and moments. The text does help as well. Cartoons are simple; you don&#8217;t have to think too abstractly; the artist has done all the legwork.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I don&#8217;t know if this is a pass\u00e9 thing to talk about, but because it&#8217;s current events when we&#8217;re recording in October 2019, I thought I would bring it up. A very popular Australia cartoonist, Michael Leunig, recently did a cartoon of a mum on her phone, not noticing that her baby has fallen out of the pram. It caused a lot of backlash as it was quite condescending. I saw article after article criticising him. Do cartoons need to please the masses, and do they need to be helping the community as a whole?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0It needs to please the masses if that&#8217;s what you want to do. You need to help the community if that&#8217;s what you want to do. I don&#8217;t know that&#8217;s what he wants to do say. I am not a mother, so I didn&#8217;t feel super strongly about it, but I can understand why people did. It might have touched a nerve because it&#8217;s what we all wonder- whether we&#8217;re doing things in a right way and when someone says you are doing it wrong it&#8217;s going to touch a nerve. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s very tasteful. I don&#8217;t think he necessarily cares, that&#8217;s more of the issue. I don&#8217;t know him personally, but I once smiled at him in a fruit store.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Tahney:<\/strong>\u00a0To finish off, what can we see from you in the next 12 months?<\/span><\/p><p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>Gorkie:<\/strong>\u00a0I&#8217;m hoping to get more off the page. I have a bit of a background in performance, and I&#8217;m itching to do an iteration of Gorkie thing. But, I&#8217;m still working it out. I am mostly hoping to get out in the real word world more, perhaps doing an exhibition or some workshops. I&#8217;m itching to get off the screen. I want to talk to some more people and get out of my head.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-974cd8c elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"974cd8c\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-db5f377\" data-id=\"db5f377\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-57bc923 elementor-widget elementor-widget-shortcode\" data-id=\"57bc923\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" 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